What Everyone Should Know About International Baccalaureate (IB)...

...that your district won't tell you!

This article was first published 7/31/11; most recent update 6/23/13.

I taught K-12 for six years and have four children who would have been forced into International Baccalaureate by my school district.  So I started researching IB in December, 2009, here is what I've discovered.
 

An International Baccalaureate (IB) Diploma from any school is a great accomplishment, but at what cost?
 
Most districts use the International Baccalaureate's (IB's) excellent marketing materials and do a very good job presenting the positive aspects of IB


This article focuses on the less than flattering aspects of IB most districts do not disclose.  

Our petition to keep IB out of our schools,
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/noibiniv


1) IB will increase college costs for most graduates compared to their fellow AP students because AP is much more accepted for college credit than IB.  Most colleges that do give credit for IB only give credit for the IB HL classes (2 year courses). 
http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/archives/ap-vs-ib.htm

Washington Post reporter Jay Mathews is the nation’s number one IB proponent, co-author of Supertest: How IB Can Strengthen Our Schools, admits colleges give more credit for AP than IB,
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/class-struggle/2010/02/u-va_discriminates_against_sma.html

As of 1/20/13 Mr. Mathews is still complaining about colleges giving more credit for AP than IB,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/how-university-of-virgina-cheats-great-students/2013/01/20/c15aeb9a-62ad-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_blog.html#comments

Colleges most likely give more credit for AP classes because by definition they are college level classes.
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/about.html

Since this article was first written the IB has changed, at least three times, their definition of what high school IB classes are.  In 2011 per IB's website, IB classes were, "university prepatory."  Most recently (1/23/13) IB's website says, "The Diploma Programme: preparing students for success in higher education and life in global society."

http://www.ibo.org/diploma/

AP classes are college level; IB classes are college prep. + ideology.  When it comes to academics, IB is a downgrade.

In this six minute video the vice principal from Reno High (WCSD) compares AP to IB.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBP3Yx-kDAI

                            AP vs. IB Reno High Spring 2011


The vice principal states: "Very very clearly AP offers more college credit than IB.  Universities by in large will give far more credit for passed AP courses than they will for IB courses.  We did a little research and we can tell you that over 200 universities actively prefer the AP program over IB vs. only four universities that prefer IB over AP."  Then the 200 universities that prefer AP are displayed.

Note - Because of pressure from Wooster IB (Reno, NV) graduates after 8 months the video was removed from Reno High's website.  Starting at 26 minutes I address the board and ask them why they are allowing a few Wooster IB graduates to hide critical information from all other families in WCSD?  The board does not respond.  This is typical of school boards around the country, all facts less than flattering to IB are hidden from families.

http://207.197.113.230/11-22-2011-RB_DSL

At many colleges the most credit you can obtain for IB is 9 semester units.  On the other hand, top AP students who graduate with up to 10 AP classes can obtain up to 30 semester units and can enter most colleges as sophomores.
Jay Mathews provides the perfect example in this article,
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/class-struggle/2010/02/u-va_discriminates_against_sma.html

Here is specific AP vs. IB college credit information for 23 top colleges:
http://www.princeton.k12.oh.us/HighSchool.cfm?subpage=416

For admission to University of Cambridge students are better served with A-levels than with IB,
http://www.wscountytimes.co.uk/community/your-letters/student-stress-in-exam-system-1-4359363

In Europe many IB graduates are failing to get into university,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2030670/The-International-Baccalaureate-backlash-Scores-private-school-pupils-ditched-A-levels-fail-university.html

UK June 23, 2013 - IB in 'death spiral' 
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/festival_of_education/article1277702.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_06_23

An IB valedictorian compares AP to IB and why most students are better off taking AP.
http://voices.yahoo.com/ib-vs-ap-student-weighs-in-12131766.html?cat=48


2) When attempting to "sell" IB most districts distort the educational benefits of the programme but; IB itself does NOT claim IB will improve student performance.  The research (including one dissertation) shows IB will NOT improve student performance. 
http://myinclinevillage.com/2011/03/01/ib-does-not-improve-student-performance.aspx

In Dundee (Greenwich) Connecticut, IB has lowered test scores.
http://blog.ctnews.com/lincolnmillstein/2011/07/24/dundee-ib-school-in-greenwich-continues-its-sharp-decline-in-statewide-ranking-is-this-our-future/

SCHOOLS: The Primary Years Programme (PYP) problem, "PYP was also terminated at Fernan Elementary a few years ago, because students’ test scores dropped while that program was in use."
http://www.cdapress.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/article_e2819dce-3436-512e-a210-c2a55c352ea7.html


3) IB's pedagogical method is one of constructivism and inquiry based learning.  Here are several studies that show how direct instruction is superior to the inquiry based IB learning uses.

The Harvard Study,

http://educationnext.org/harvard-study-shows-that-lecture-style-presentations-lead-to-higher-student-achievement/
Another study: http://www.cogtech.usc.edu/publications/kirschner_Sweller_Clark.pdf
Another study: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090326114415.htm

Another one: http://educationnext.org/eighth-grade-students-learn-more-through-direct-instruction/

Another one: http://www.jefflindsay.com/EducData.shtml



4) As an educator I believe constructivism and inquiry based learning has merit in many settings. The problem with IB is they use these methods on our youngest children to teach "personal and social education" to "develop attitudes" and get the children to "take action."
http://www.ibo.org/pyp/curriculum/index.cfm
This is non-academic manipulation of our children by IB/United Nations (11 below) under the guise of developing "critical thinkers" and "world citizens."  

One of the biggest problems I have with IB is that parents are rarely (if ever) notified IB is a UN sponsorored programme, and that the goal of the programme is NOT to education but to develop attitudes and get the children to take action. 

This mother had her daughter in IB in for nine years and didn't know IB is a UN sponsored programme. When she discovered this fact, everything she had been going through for nine years finally made sense. Here are her comments,
http://myinclinevillage.com/2010/11/20/one-florida-mother-who-had-her-daughter-in-ib-for-years---talks-about-programme.aspx


5) At the elementary level, Primary Years Programme (PYP), IB is required school wide (Article 5).  http://ibo.org/become/guidance/documents/PYPRulesforIBWorldSchools_e_FINALFILE.pdf

Parents who do not agree with the PYP (UN) ideology are forced into the programme.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/groups/200151270054583/

Here are examples of PYP lessons,
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/PypIBProjectsInPublicSchool

At the middle school level, Middle Years Programme (MYP), the IB suggests MYP be implemented school wide.
http://www.ibo.org/ibna/educators/IBMYPFAQSchools.cfm#d

At the high school, Diploma Programme (DP), when IB and AP classes are combined, per the IB regulations the IB material must take priority.

Another huge problem - any parent who objects to the IB ideology being forced on their children are typically intimidated by district employees and IB supporters (18 below).

Here is a catchy PYP IB video that gets all the student to think the same, attempts to develop attitudes, and propmts the students to take action. How much time was taken away from teaching real subjects to make this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHAEzheJk2Q&feature=player_embedded


6) IB is extremely expensive,
http://myinclinevillage.com/2011/02/06/ib-cost.aspx

In 2004 when the IB fees were lower and there were far fewer IB schools in the US than today the Washington Times reported, "US schools spend an estimated $85 to $100 million a year on IB.  Fairfax County schools alone spend $1.8 million a year."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jan/17/20040117-112841-6750r/?page=all  


7) Districts and the IB itself make it sound like the application process is rigorous and selective.  In reality it appears no school has ever been turned down for IB, as long as the payments are received by IB.    
http://truthaboutib.com/doesibtakecontrol/ibapplicationprocess.html


8) The reasons most schools state for dropping IB are:
1) Cost, 2) Lack of student improvement with IB, 3) Less flexible than AP, 4) Lack of participation in IB classes, 5) Lack of college credit for IB.
http://myinclinevillage.com/2011/03/09/at-least-22-schools-announce-they-will-drop-ib.aspx


9) Some international teachers and administrators oppose IB,

"In my opinion MYP has no educational value."
http://internationalschoolsreview.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1322&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

One educator writes,
"When the IB slithered into our school I was forced to act as the PYP coordinator for one year. Being the principal of the elementary school I had to sit and watch the school that I built get destroyed."

Another IB teacher writes,
"I have worked in three IB schools in South America and the Middle East and in each one have experienced nothing but chaotic teaching and students lacking basic skills in math, English and science."
http://truthaboutib.com/intnlibteachersspeak.html

IB teacher, Richard Ries, states:
1) "Teachers, often fearful of losing their jobs, begin adopting the IB lingo and pretend to support it in a way that eerily resembles scenes from George Orwell’s 1984 when mid-level workers blindly accept whatever 'truths' the oligarchy in Oceania tells them." 
2) "You are supposed to be as enthusiastic about it as someone who sells used cars, particularly when talking to parents or students. You are trained to be a believer. The whole business is all too redolent of a dogmatic ideology — if not a cult."
3)  "It (IB) downplays American exceptionalism, and gainsays some of our most cherished values as a unique civilization producing original thinkers." 
http://richardries.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/big-brother-is-teaching-you/

A teacher at Grand Canyon School says: One "benefit" of IB is the round about way the program has brought GCS together. "In the hallways and during private moments, dislike of IB has always been a topic of discussion."
http://www.grandcanyonnews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=9167


10) With IB schools give up some local control. When a school buys any IB programme they acknowledge: a) the rules for IB are governed by Swiss Law. b) Arbitration of any dispute (usually when a student does not get the IB Diploma) shall be handled in Geneva, Switzerland.

Articles 13 and 14 DP
http://www.ibo.org/documentlibrary/rules_ibworldschools/documents/DP_rules_en.pdf
"Governing law - Swiss law governs these Rules for IB World Schools: Diploma Programme and all other documents relating to authorization to teach the Diploma Programme.
Arbitration of disputes -
Any dispute arising from or in connection with these Rules for IB World Schools: Diploma Programme or any other document relating to the authorization to teach the Diploma Programme shall be finally settled by one arbitrator in accordance with the Swiss Rules of International Arbitration of the Swiss Chambers of Commerce. The seat of the arbitration shall be Geneva, Switzerland."
Articles 12 and 13 MYP
http://www.ibo.org/documentlibrary/rules_ibworldschools/documents/myprules.pdf
Articles 12 and 13 PY
http://www.ibo.org/documentlibrary/rules_ibworldschools/documents/pyprules.PDF


11) IB is a non-governmental organization (NGO) of United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) the United Nations (UN). 
http://www.ibo.org/partnerships/governments/index.cfm

IB and UNESCO work out of the same building in Switzerland (toward the bottom of the page):  http://www.truthaboutib.com/breakingnewsopinions.html

IB history and articles from IB's and UNESCO's website showing the IB/UN connection.
http://myinclinevillage.com/2010/07/16/even-jay-matthews-admits-colleges-give-more-credit-for-ap.aspx

Here is a link to more articles and a video on the IB/UNESCO/global governance connection,
http://myinclinevillage.com/2010/09/01/is-ib-mission-to-promote-global-governance.aspx

IB does not go out of their way to say IB is an NGO of UNESCO; in fact, some IB proponents will attempt to deny this fact. 

US News and World Report - May, 2011 - IB Undermines US Founding Principles
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/05/26/international-baccalaureate-undermines-us-founding-principles

An article titled, Is the IB indoctrinating our children with globalist agenda 21 nonsense?  With numerous links to IB's own website.
http://www.varight.com/news/is-the-international-baccalaureate-indoctrinating-our-children-with-globalist-agenda-21-nonsense/

Here is an eight minute video of a PowerPoint presentation by Duncan Koler Esq., titled, IB Connecting the Dots (International Baccalaureate and UNESCO educational objectives)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MMglKMoF7w&feature=player_embedded

Here is an article where Chair of UNESCO's executive board, Mr. Olabiyi Babalola Joseph Yi, said: "UNESCO's role is to think global governance.  That is why the Organization was founded."
http://www.infowars.com/unesco-chair-admits-organization-was-founded-to-push-global-governance/

On 10/31/11 Jay Mathews published a very abbreviated version of this article where he defends UNESCO, he states: "Eppolito thinks IB association with the UN is some kind of taint."  For the record, the "taint" is the fact that IB attempts to hide the association with UNESCO.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/ib-critic-versus-me/2011/10/11/gIQAC7xjZM_blog.html
 
On 10/31/11: "The U.S. government announced that it has halted making financial contributions to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) after the latter admitted the Palestinian national Authority (PNA) as a full member."
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/01/c_131222580.htm

On 11/1/11 "Foreign Affairs Minister of Canada, John Baird said Tuesday the decision is not in the best interests of peace in the Middle East so Canada is freezing all future voluntary contributions to the UNESCO."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9925103


12) Some people object to IB on religious grounds.
http://www.wpaag.org/International%20Bbaccalaureate%20Program%201.htm
http://www.gtbe.org/news/index.php/1/22/186.html

Here is how one Christian school compares IB to a Christian education,
http://www.theambroseschool.org/documents/parent-insights-documents/a-perspective-on-the-international-baccalaureate/

In this third grade IB class in Summit County Colorado class third graders were taught, "about condoms, IUD's and the intricacies of birth control."
http://myinclinevillage.com/2010/05/31/ib-parent-summit-county-co-sent-5132010.aspx
The teacher correctly stated a third grade birth control lesson is, "within the confines of the IB program."

According to UNESCO's (IB's) International Guidelines on Sexuality Education: 
    a) In sixth grade (section 5.2) you teach, "both men and women can give and receive sexual pleasure with a partner of the same or opposite sex."
    b) In third grade (section 6.1) you teach: "steps for proper use of condoms" and that; "condoms and other contraceptives (including emergency contraception) can be used to prevent unintended pregnancy." 
    c) In kindergarten (section 4.1) you teach, "girls and boys have private body parts that can feel pleasurable when touched by oneself."
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/082509_unesco.pdf

IB can divide Catholic schools,
http://www.mvsd-ib.org/ib/2013/01/20/a-teachers-plea-to-a-catholic-school/
http://bungalowbillscw.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-teacher-from-international.html

This article titled, Secular Humanism: Just one Goal of International Baccalaureate, uses an article posted at IBO's website to prove her point.
http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2013/04/30/secular-humanism-just-one-goal-of-international-baccalaureate/


13) From IB's website The Diploma Programme Curriculum-Core Requirements, Theory of Knowledge, "TOK is composed almost entirely of questions." 
http://www.ibo.org/diploma/curriculum/core/knowledge/

Here is an article from IB's website titled Values Constructivism and the IB Continuum,
http://www.ibo.org/ibaem/conferences/documents/ValuespaperRMarshman.pdf

On page 6 of 8 in referring to the TOK class it says (emphasis added),

"In their essays and oral presentations they (the students) grapple with questions like

  • What makes evidence good enough to justify belief?
  • What justifies the name of art?
  • Do we act ethically out of social duty, religious belief, universal principle or self interest?
  • When can it be right to disobey the law?
  • Can suicide bombers be right?"

If these are not the kind of questions you want your high school student spending classroom time answering you should avoid IB.


14) This link is from IB’s website, if you scroll down to Sustainability as international mindedness it becomes clear IB has little to do with real education, and more to do with ideology; specifically - Agenda 21, Earth Charter, and UNESCO.
http://www.ibo.org/iba/pyp1a_1b.cfm  
    a) Agenda 21,
    
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
    b) Earth Charter,
    
http://www.earthcharterinaction.org/content/pages/Read-the-Charter.html
    http://www.academia.org/international-baccalaureate-earth-charter/
Some people who don't disagree with these concepts, do not want elementary schools to substitute these ideologies for "real education in real subjects."


15) At least one state is trying to eliminate IB, some have cut funding others are attempting to cut funding for IB, and some party platforms oppose IB.

 

16) AP may be best for gifted students, especially if they hope to earn as much college credit for their high school classes.  According to Pedro Martinez, Superintendent of Washoe County School District (Reno), and IB proponent, “in my old district, Chicago gifted students usually take the AP classes.” 
According to Duke University, "AP for Gifted students is still a good choice."
http://www.tip.duke.edu/node/895 


17) Per IB rules when IB/AP classes are combined as they are at many small high schools teaching both, the IB course material must take priority.  Students then take both the IB and AP exam.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/194347311_Fort_Lee_school_district_to_merge_some_AP_and_IB_classes.html 

It is common for districts to boast about how well IB schools do on Jay Mathew's Americas Best Highs Schools list.  What most schools do not disclose is how the list is determined.  The list ONLY considers the number of advanced exams students take NOT how many are passed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-brown/newsweeks-top-high-school_b_213159.html 


18) For the IB Diploma over the course of two years, students must meet all requirements in the link below and take: 3 SL (standard level) classes, 3 HL (higher level) two year classes, the Theory of Knowledge class (a UN influenced philosophy course), write the extended essayAND complete 150 hours of community service.  Article 15 of this IB document states the minimum test scores and all the other requirements to obtain the IB Diploma.   
http://www.ibo.org/become/guidance/documents/DP_regs_en.pdf  


19) What is most concerning about IB is the deceitful way IB is implemented over and over again throughout the United States, and the impact it has on communities.  Frequently superintendents and school boards vote, behind closed doors, to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and totally change a school and implement IB with little or no input from teachers, parents, or the community.
http://ccheadliner.com/opinion/letter-the-ib-program-revealed/article_57953928-7b7c-11e0-b44b-001cc4c002e0.html

Districts do not answer the serious IB questions or acknowledge the political and religious concerns with IB.  Anyone who opposes IB or asks difficult questions becomes a target of the district and the IB supporters.
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/article/20100519/NEWS/100519895&parentprofile=search
http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_c54a7702-8069-5c61-bf3c-e00e46fb0a94.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/09/20/2279054/n-idaho-international-classes.html


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In these articles a school board member says those opposing IB, "have been intimidated by supporters of PYP" and, "they feel they have been bullied and fear retribution if they speak out."
http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_3ea9ee28-adb0-55cc-aa0c-bc5689f45574.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/09/20/2279054/n-idaho-international-classes.html

In anonymous letter from an IB opponent states: "There is a large 'silent' group of parents that oppose IB that remains quiet for fear of retaliation from the community and school district...The school district has unermined and intimidated any opposition to IB...While John Eppolito has been the fearless spokesperson an researcher against IB, he is not alone.  The rest of us are just too afraid to speak up publicly for fear of retaliation from the school district against our families."
http://myinclinevillage.com/2010/09/25/anonymous-letter-to-the-bonanza.aspx

Here is the quintessential example of what IB does to communities.  Stow-Monroe Falls, Ohio has a battle raging over IB implementation.  Three of the five board members were changed, mostly due to IB and a vote recount has been ordered.  Here is a snapshot of their IB facebook page on 12/3/11.
http://myinclinevillage.com/2011/07/29/what-ib-does-to-communities.aspx

Districts do not allow an open and honest IB discussion.  Here is the IB document on how to squelch the opposition,
http://www.ibo.org/ibna/actionkits/documents/MediaOpp.pdf

Sometimes teachers are threatened with transfers, and parents who oppose IB or have questions are afraid to speak up.   
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/article/20100111/NEWS/100109945&parentprofile=search
Towards bottom of page:
Echo Hills Staff Bulletin
Week of May 30, 2011-June 6, 2011
Paragraph 1 Reflection
http://www.truthaboutib.com/usschooldisputes/stowmunroefallsohio.html

MONEY SHOULD NOT BE SPENT ON AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT USE THESE TACTICS.

IB is the most expensive and controversal educational program available, but it will not improve student performance.


IB
targets low performing schools where there is typically less parent involvement, therefore less IB opposition and controversy.  The current trend of the IB is to push IB at the elementary level, where the educational value of the programme is minimal, but in younger students it is easier to “develop attitudes” and get them to “take action,”  (4 above).

If the community begins to learn the points above, people will oppose IB.  Once that happens people take sides and the community becomes divided.  It has happened at numerous communities around the country.

http://www.truthaboutib.com/home.html

Here's rare example of a school board in Greenwich, CT that questioned the superintendent about IB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDE17JDnASg

A couple months after this video was shot, the superintendent resigned, a few months later the new superintendent said the IB programme would not be expanded,
http://www.greenwichtime.com/default/article/Board-puts-Greenwich-High-IB-expansion-on-hold-2206679.php

The school board chairman, in Coeur d' Alene, Tom Hamilton, is starting to speak up against IB for parents who, "have been bullied and fear retribution if they speak out."
http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_3ea9ee28-adb0-55cc-aa0c-bc5689f45574.html
Another member of the school board emailed me.  Unfortunately, Mr. Hamilton has had to:
"pull his daughter out of the PYP school because she was retaliated against.  It has taken a toll on his family because of the viciousness of the educators and some of the parents."  
IB is the only educational program available that when questioned elicits bullying and agressive behavior from some of the IB supporters.  IB divides communities; in my community, Incline Village Nevada, IB ended friendships.

Once in place IB can be very difficult to remove,
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/steigerwald/s_434358.html

IB is not a good fit for most schools, but obtaining the IB Diploma is a major accomplishment for students. 

After thousands of hours of research on IB, I think the programme is best for average and above high school students who are willing to work very hard, who's parents support the ideology, and who know in advance the amount of college credit they can expect with IB

Tax dollars are being wasted on an expensive programme that: focuses on an ideology many consider controversial, forces that ideology on ALL elementary children, utilizes a substandard method for providing instruction, and offers less opportunity for college credit.  Once districts decide IB will be implemented they do everything possible not allow an open and honest IB discussion.  What is most troubling about IB is the way it is implemented; anyone with difficult questions or objections to IB becomes a target of the superintendent, school board, and the IB supporters.  Any educational programme that can't be openly and honestly discussed is not worth spending money on.  It is ironic that when people question IB and exhibit most traits of the IB Learner Profile, http://www.ibo.org/programmes/profile/documents/Learnerprofileguide.pdf, they become targets of the IB supporters.  Families should consider these facts before enrolling in any IB programme.

John Eppolito
john@Jtahoe.com
Former K-12 teacher
www.MyInclineVillage.com

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  • 8/6/2011 10:44 AM Concerned Taxpayer wrote:
    Hello John, This is well written and exceedingly well researched information. The question is...why doesn't the school district publish this information the same way they distribute information encouraging students to buy into the IB program? The other question is...where is the school district getting the funds to pay for the program costs and the salaries of the required administrators and support staff? The parents of children and the taxpayers of this county need to "FOLLOW THE MONEY" !!! This is not a productive program for the students overall. IB is not proven to improve grades at any level that IB is given to the students. So, why is WCSD spending so very much money for so little proven results to the detriment of those students who really could get better results with the AP program at minimal cost to the taxpayers? Something for parents and taxpayers to look into.
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  • 8/7/2011 8:07 AM Father of Four wrote:
    Concerned Taxpayer,

    I sent this to Wooster's new IB coordinator,
    jrosenbloom@washoeschools.net,

    and all the school board members,
    bclark@washoe.k12.nv.us
    bmclaury@washoe.k12.nv.us
    dcarne@washoe.k12.nv.us
    egutierrez@washoe.k12.nv.us
    jmayer@washoe.k12.nv.us
    grein100@gmail.com
    sgkelley@washoe.k12.nv.us

    a couple days prior to posting, "What All Parents & Students Should Know BEFORE Enrolling in IB."

    "Mr. Rosenbloom,

    I realize this is one sided but do you find any inaccuracies in this posting? If not will you kindly give this information to all parents prior to them enrolling their students in IB at Wooster?
    http://myinclinevillage.com/2011/07/31/what-all-parents--students-should-know-before-enrolling-in-ib.aspx

    I’m not sure why WCSD, will only present one side of IB prior to students enrolling. Parents deserve to know all the facts about IB prior to enrollment."

    NO ONE RESPONDED!

    My goal is not to harm Wooster's IB programme. My goal is to get WCSD to present ALL aspects of IB to parents and students prior to student enrollment in the programme.

    John
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  • 8/8/2011 6:59 AM Concerned Parent wrote:
    John,

    My guess is that the school board and the IB coordinator think that giving parents ALL the facts about IB in advance it will harm Wooster's IB program. To justify the cost for IB the district needs to keep growing enrollment.

    Since it appears the district won't do the right thing and provide ALL the facts about IB to parents, the school board should get involved.
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  • 8/14/2011 4:19 AM Lisa McLoughlin wrote:
    No parent should have to go through what John Eppolito went through to protect and defend the integrity of American public schools against IB's strategic expansion efforts. By putting himself on the frontline, meeting with the press, engaging the community, directly confronting school officials and uncovering the facts IB doesn't want people to know, John was able to do what few Americans have been able to do - stop IB K-12.

    I would like to thank John for composing this informational page and his continuing efforts to share the truth about IB.

    http://truthaboutib.com/whatcanido.html
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  • 8/15/2011 6:32 AM Father of Four wrote:
    Thank you Lisa.

    In the seven minute Reno High video above
    http://www.rhshuskies.com/media/apvib.m4v
    the district admits my first point, IB will increase costs for most graduates compared to their fellow AP students. The video takes a long time to down load but the vice principal from Reno High states:

    "Very very clearly AP offers more college credit than IB. Universities by in large will give far more credit for passed AP courses than they will for IB courses. We did a little research and we can tell you that over 200 universities actively prefer the AP program over IB vs. only four universities that prefer IB over AP."

    John
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  • 8/15/2011 5:31 PM Lisa McLoughlin wrote:
    That's wonderful that your Reno Asst. Principal went on record on that video, John. YOU empowered her to do so. We need more administrators and college admission officers to go on record with the truth.

    The following comment was sent to the Bedford NH school Board, unfortunately it is anonymous but it bears repeating:

    To: bedfordschoolboard@sau25.net
    Subject: Re: Why Bedford IB students
    A REPLY from a NH parent:I went to MIT on Friday with my son to "look around " and ask questions about him possibly going there. IB was brought up by another parent and the admissions person said, "Well, we prefer the kids come here with AP courses and not IB but there have been students from the IB program that managed". Hardly a ringing endorsement.
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  • 8/25/2011 6:40 AM Willy Krusell wrote:
    John,
    I think that video answers why Heath, Pedro, and the bloated incompetent communications dept. didn't allow Reno High students a chance to recruit like Wooster was given! I wonder if that vid knocked the smirk off of Stella's face. I hope it was a knockout blow to the stomach for that snotty little eurotrash camp follower that Heath brought with him.
    Simply put, AP offers college credit while IB offers pseudo intellectual facility as shown in the Breitbart clip on what was best before sliced bread.
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  • 8/26/2011 5:18 AM Father of Four wrote:
    Here is the article Willy is referring to, the clip was done for the Theory of Knowledge class,
    http://biggovernment.com/lrlee/2011/07/11/is-the-international-baccalaureate-programme-co-opting-your-child/
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  • 2/19/2012 2:36 PM Patricia Hammes wrote:
    It is very interesting to me as an AP and IB Coordinator that the AP curriculum and exams are beginning to be formatted in the "depth of knowledge" proposed 44 years ago and used by the IB curriculum and exams. Perhaps AP realizes now what best practices and 21st century teaching and learning are really all about. Also interesting is that my comments are subject to your moderation before being displayed. Hmmmm.
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  • 2/25/2012 6:52 AM Father of Four wrote:
    1) Comments used to be displayed immediately. After publishing this article the number of hits on this site jumped from about 100 per day to over 3,000 per day. From 1/1/12 through 2/24/12 the site has averaged over 6,900 hits per day. Now I have to delete all the spam, and approve all comments (even mine).
    2) I find it interesting that IB won't acknowledge ANY of the 14 "less than flattering" aspects above. And when people bring up these facts they become a target of IB and the district pushing this ridiculous programme.

    Your turn Patricia...
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  • 2/25/2012 7:29 AM Lisa wrote:
    Patricia,

    The vast majority of online newspapers/blogs require moderation of comments prior to publishing on the web. This is something 'new' to you?

    But worse than that, sites like IBO and Patch don't just "moderate", they outright censor or ban individuals who don't rave about the IB product.

    Did the moderator here alter your comment in any way? I doubt it.
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  • 4/30/2012 11:46 AM John wrote:
    Hi John
    I enjoyed your material here. But was quite frustrated at times. You seem to have a lot of issues muddled: your unhappiness with the WCSD, your beliefs and attitudes towards the IB and your beliefs and attitudes towards lots of other stuff (the UN for starters)

    I don’t think this is really a helpful addition to the debate. I’ve commented on each point, such as I am able, but tried to keep focused on the IB.

    I wonder why, after all of what you say, that you concluded that you actually think the IB is “best” for high achieving students. Presumably you make this claim based on your beliefs about what a good education means, what a well-educated student means? Why does none of this appear to temper your views in the 15 points against the IB that you offer? In my professional life, I have to make this argument (that IB offers a better learning experience, and better preparation for students) every day and I like to make it because I think that it is right. If your gripe is with WCSD, fine. But be more clear in your argument.

    I’ve had to break up my post, to reply to meaningfully reply to yours.

    Regards,
    John


    1. If your point is just that more credit is given to AP courses more often than IB courses, so be it, that’s a university decision. This is not a claim against the IB.
    2. No the IB doesn’t promise better performance. It simply attempts to follow a particular view of what ‘educated’ means. Literate, numerate, socially conscious, globally aware. APs do not take this sort of a programmatic approach.
    3. Yes, IB has particular guiding assumptions about learning and what engages students and prepares them for life-long learning. However, the IB doesn’t (at the DP level) dictate how things must be taught. That’s left up to the schools and the teachers. The studies you mention rely heavily passing standardized tests as the model for ‘high achievement’. I’ve met very few educators who agree that passing state sponsored, politically driven standardized tests is what we mean by well-educated.
    4. Yes.
    5. Ok – schools have to decide on cuts across curriculum in all sorts of areas. By less flexible, I suppose you mean that there is structure in the program, but this is because it IS a program. All High Schools and Universities have the same sort of structure (taking certain classes to get the diploma). AP courses must also fit into such a structure if a student wishes to earn a diploma. I’m not sure why this is a fault of the IB. You’ve not justified 2.4.
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  • 4/30/2012 11:47 AM John wrote:
    6. Again, not really a fault of the IB, you’ve simply pointed out that some conservative Christian groups differ in their ideology. Conservative Christian groups conflict on a lot of things. Some of them think that US soldiers deserve to die. Do you want to ally yourself and your argument with them? Indeed Ambrose’s statement makes it clear that what they disagree with is not the IB mission statement per se but some other imposed view. I’ve been teaching IBDP for 12 years and there’s nothing that necessarily conflicts with the Western cultural tradition of America’s founding fathers.
    7. While the IB and the UN might have links, so to does the IB have links with a number of US Government initiatives, helpfully listed in documents available on the links you offered.
    8. Why is “epistemology” such a bad word? It is the philosophical study of knowledge: how we get it, methods of various disciplines to gain it, various ways to evaluate it. America is premised on the right to ASK certain questions - surely we can ask these questions? It’s rather unfair to suggest that something is wrong with the IB simply because one of its graduates in another country turned to terrorism… what shall we say of Bundy, or McVeigh – they were educated in US high schools – are their local districts to blame?
    9. Yes, we’ve agreed that the IB has a certain ideology. Part of that ideology is that young people need to learn about the challenges facing our environment. I’m not sure where the objection lies in that. Why is this not a ‘real subject?’ Shall we simply state facts: “The earth’s resources are unevenly distributed, which leads to unsustainable economic situations for developing countries” without also suggesting that it is good to help solve this problem?
    10. I don’t know enough about PYP to comment. I do know that it offers a curriculum in a whole sense, such that a school couldn’t teach ½ and ½. It’s certainly NOT about kids ‘thinking the same’. It’s about implementing a curriculum, which is what schools do.
    11. Yes.
    12. Your use of Duke’s claim is interesting, as it doesn’t touch on IB at all. Luckily, it’s easy to find information from Duke on the website which says that BOTH IB and AP are accepted for credit.
    13. Yes, there is an expectation that when entering students for an IB exam, that teachers will teach the specification for that exam. It’s a simple matter of preparing your students in the best way. Not all specifications teach the same material. It is a disservice to place students registered for different exams in the same class, unless the teaching is appropriate for both exams.
    14. Yes. but there’s nothing UN influenced. It’s actually influenced by the French Baccalaureate, which requires philosophy to be taught in high schools.
    15. I wouldn’t be able to speak to this, other than to say you are making quite general claims. The US is IB’s fastest growing region, so what you say can’t be true for all districts.
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  • 7/4/2012 4:17 AM Nota wrote:
    Thanks John for some great info. The new principal at my two sons' school is trying to shove IB down our throats (with promise of doubling the tuition). Now I am gonna shove this down his ;-)

    Some great info here as well:
    http://truthaboutib.com/
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  • 7/5/2012 5:58 AM Father of Four wrote:
    Nota,

    If your district has decided they want IB it is likely #17 in article will start. Ask the district to educate the parents/community about IB. If they do they will only give you one side of the programme. Someone has to educate the parents/community on the "other side." Stick to the accademic problems with IB 1-5 above. Don't bring in the UN or religous aspects until you have people on your side who oppose the lack of educational value and college credit with IB.

    St. Helena, CA is a good case study, after over $1,000,000 spent in a couple years it was the high school students who questioned and stopped IB,
    http://myinclinevillage.com/2011/03/09/at-least-22-schools-announce-they-will-drop-ib.aspx

    Good luck, feel free to email if you include a phone number I will call you back.
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  • 7/7/2012 12:13 AM Nota wrote:
    Thanks John for some great info. The new principal at my sons' school is trying to shove IB down our throats -- with promise of doubling the tuition...

    Also found some great info here:
    http://truthaboutib.com/
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  • 7/7/2012 12:15 AM Nota wrote:
    Thought there was an error and resubmitted the comment...appologies!!!!
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  • 7/8/2012 9:08 AM Father of Four wrote:
    Nota,
    Not at all. We get too many spammers trying to post so now I must approve the legitimate comments. For the record, I allow all comments related to the article both for and against IB.
    John
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  • 9/30/2012 11:31 AM Ann Graves wrote:
    Thanks John, It's Ann from the Loudon campaign. I will certainly bring this to our Education Town Hall.

    Can you email me directly?


    Thanks

    Ann Barrett Graves
    443-857-5700
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    1. 10/13/2012 10:05 AM Father of Four wrote:
      Ann,
      I emailed you the abbreviated article (below) in a word doc. that fits on one 8 x 11.5 page. If anyone else wants the one page document please email me directly at,
      john@Jtahoe.com
      John


      Why International Baccalaureate is not a good fit for most schools
      Updated 10/13/12

      1) Compared to AP, IB will increase college costs for most students.

      2) IB will not improve student performance.

      3) IB's pedagogical method is one of constructivism and inquiry based learning to promote a specific ideology.

      4) IB is extremely expensive.

      5) Many schools drop IB. The reasons most often stated are: a) Cost, b) Lack of student improvement with IB, c) Less flexible than AP, d) Lack of participation in IB classes, e) Lack of college credit for IB.

      6) Some people object to IB on religious grounds.

      7) There is no record of a school ever being turned down for IB, so long as the money is available.

      8) At the elementary level IB is required for all children in the school and the stated goal is to "develop attitudes," and to get students to "take action." At the middle school the IB suggests IB be implemented school wide. Children of parents who object to the IB ideology are sometimes forced into IB.

      9) Many international teachers and former IB teachers are against the programme.

      10) IB is an NGO of UNESCO (UN), IB and UNESCO work out of the same building in Switzerland. The goal is to promote the UN ideology.

      11) IB has little to do with real education and more to do with ideology; specifically the UN’s ideology and Agenda 21.

      12) With IB schools give up some local control. Any disputes are handled in Switzerland with Swiss law.

      13) Some states and political parties are trying to eliminate IB.

      14) The IB diploma required TOK class is composed entirely of questions like, "When can it be right to disobey the law? Can suicide bombers be right?"

      15) AP is the best fit for gifted students.

      16) When IB/AP classes are combined the IB material must take priority.

      17) For the IB diploma students must complete: six required classes in two years (three one year classes and three two year classes), a UN influenced philosophy course, write an extended essay, and complete 150 hours of community service.

      18) IB is implemented in a deceitful way over and over throughout the United States. Once someone questions IB an open and honest discussion is never allowed, and the community becomes divided.

      To find proof supporting all the points above read the entire article, www.MyInclineVillage.com/

      There are numerous active IB battles going on in the US, some of them can be found at, www.TruthAboutIB.com

      John Eppolito
      john@Jtahoe.com
      775.832.8246
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